1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:10,480 Ping Yu: (gentle music) Oh, welcome to the Blooms and Beyond podcast, a podcast that uncovers a plant history, 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,000 culture, and management through the lens of science. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,760 I'm your host Ping. 4 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:16,820 And how's everyone doing today? 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:27,420 I'm doing great because again, I have my, uh, one of my dear friend, uh, and, uh, insp- inspirational horticulturist, Brie Arthur 6 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:36,640 joining me today to talk about, uh, one of my favorite organization in the green industry, IPPS Southern Region. 7 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:47,560 She has been involved with the IPPS Southern Region for over a decade and will share many fun stories and opportunities that, um, IPPS 8 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,980 Southern Region really hold. 9 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,680 So I don't wanna steal any more of the center from our speaker today. 10 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:58,100 Uh, without further ado, here is my conversation with Brie Arthur. 11 00:00:58,460 --> 00:00:59,600 I hope you enjoy it. 12 00:00:59,610 --> 00:01:03,100 (gentle music) Hey, Brie. 13 00:01:03,260 --> 00:01:05,220 Welcome to the podcast. 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,210 Uh, can you get... 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,160 (laughs) Start with the introduction? 16 00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:12,610 It's been (laughs) three times. 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,200 I know you can do it differently every time. 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,580 So can you tell our audience a little bit about who you are and what you do? 19 00:01:19,660 --> 00:01:25,740 Brie Arthur: I don't know that anybody's actually invited me three times on a podcast, so I'm feeling really good about myself. 20 00:01:25,780 --> 00:01:27,620 Well, everybody, I'm Brie. 21 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:33,940 I go by Brie the Plant Lady, and I'm a generally not well-adjusted plant person. 22 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:44,120 And I studied horticulture way back when in the '90s at Purdue University, and that was actually where I was introduced to the International Plant 23 00:01:44,180 --> 00:01:45,160 Production Society. 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,580 I attended as an undergrad, uh, an Eastern Region meeting, and it was one of those pivotal moments 25 00:01:55,020 --> 00:02:02,740 for a, you know, a kid in college who didn't really know what they were doing, where I found clarity. 26 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:10,660 And I was like, "Oh, my gosh, there's all these other people that are just like me, and I don't feel like a weirdo anymore." 27 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:21,580 (laughs) And I knew I had kind of found my group, uh, in that moment, even though it took more than a decade for me to get really involved 28 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:22,740 in the organization. 29 00:02:23,540 --> 00:02:33,800 Uh, but that first meeting that I went to kind of solidified my decision to study horticulture, to graduate, and to seek a job 30 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,940 in plant production. 31 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:42,280 Um, I do devote a lot of time and energy to it, so I, I am formally the international delegate, 32 00:02:43,540 --> 00:02:47,760 and I'm also the communications director for the Southern Region. 33 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:52,180 And so I am knee-deep into all things IPPS. 34 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,800 So I always tell people, "If you have any problems, I'm probably the person you should talk to." 35 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:04,300 Ping Yu: And I can relate to whatever you just mentioned, the first meeting that you attended, um, decades ago. 36 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:11,300 And you know, when you s- first started, you were, like, trying to figure out who you are and what you do, and then d- with different organizations who are 37 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,359 different, um, groups. 38 00:03:12,820 --> 00:03:15,540 But the moment that you... 39 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,180 I was in the meeting group with... 40 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:20,160 talking to people, I was like, "Oh, gosh. 41 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:20,920 I found my people." 42 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:21,780 Yeah, I know. 43 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:32,500 And then it's been, it's been crazy, and e- especially I think it was the, uh, the meeting in 2019, that's when I was, uh, presenting the student competition. 44 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:43,329 And then I, I remember I was there, and, uh, um, and Mengmeng, my, uh, my advisor back then, she was like, 45 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,380 "Oh, do you, do you see Tom Yeager? 46 00:03:46,780 --> 00:03:47,280 The Yeager." 47 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:49,380 was like, "Oh, this name sounds familiar." 48 00:03:49,860 --> 00:03:53,260 And then she's like, uh, "Yes, the, the Yeager." 49 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:55,560 And I was like, "The Yeager? 50 00:03:56,340 --> 00:03:58,440 The one that I cite all... 51 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,760 that I always cite?" 52 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,360 And she's like, "Yes." 53 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,760 So I went there and, and start talking to Tom, and he's great. 54 00:04:05,820 --> 00:04:07,420 He, he's really great. 55 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,920 A- and at the moment it was like... 56 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:10,760 I, even took a picture with him. 57 00:04:11,420 --> 00:04:14,500 So I- it feels like, um, you know, l- 58 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:24,480 as a nerd as we are, and, um, meeting him is p- feels like, uh, meeting a celebrity, (laughs) you know? 59 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,100 A- and, uh, so I still remember all those conversations we had. 60 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:36,920 And, um, uh, Tom said one thing to me, uh, I still remember this, and he still remember this. 61 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:47,700 Um, after the communication that we had, he said, "Oh, Ping, uh, I think you will do great no 62 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,880 matter what you decide to do in the future." 63 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:52,500 I was like, "Holy moly, you just met me. 64 00:04:52,820 --> 00:04:53,820 How do you know that?" 65 00:04:53,940 --> 00:05:02,540 (laughs) And then I think last year I asked Tom, I was like, "Hey, Tom, do you remember that you said that to me?" 66 00:05:02,980 --> 00:05:04,360 He's like, "Yeah, I remember. 67 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,340 I, and I still believe that." 68 00:05:06,380 --> 00:05:08,460 I'm like, "Come on, Tom." 69 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:19,140 Brie Arthur: (laughs) I, well, first of all, Tom Yeager is the most incredible human being ever, and he's brilliant. 70 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:24,640 And of course, he saw that you were brilliant as well and going to do incredible things. 71 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Uh, you had a whole room full of people that knew that. 72 00:05:28,420 --> 00:05:37,000 I have all of my most valuable mentors started with IPPS, and I'm so grateful to have them all in my life. 73 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:48,960 I, I call, like, Dr. Fred Davies and Dr. David Creech and Tom Saunders from Saunders Brothers and Dennis Niemeyer and Tom 74 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Yeager. 75 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:57,850 And, uh, you know, it's so funny, I, I just have this, like, Rolodex of people that just wanna keep in touch with and hear their voice and catch up 76 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,000 with what they're up to. 77 00:05:59,070 --> 00:06:03,980 And, um, IPPS made those relationships possible. 78 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:15,280 And I've been in a lot of different professional organizations, none have had as meaningful relationships as what I've been able to forge through 79 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,150 IPPS. 80 00:06:16,620 --> 00:06:22,020 Ping Yu: (upbeat music) But, uh, let's, let's step back a little bit. 81 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:32,240 For those who doesn't know or who, who may not be so familiar with the IPPS, can you tell, uh, our audience what is 82 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:39,580 the mission of IPPS and what is ac- So the mission, I think it's the greatest tagline of all time, and I can't take any credit for this. 83 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:49,960 Brie Arthur: (laughs) But the mission of IPPS is to seek and share plant knowledge globally, and it is a global network 84 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,360 of plant production professionals. 85 00:06:52,860 --> 00:06:59,960 So we have seven regions around the world, including, uh, three in North America, Eastern, Western, and Southern. 86 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:07,699 We have a European region, we have a Southern Africa region, and an Australian region, and a New Zealand region. 87 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Um, every region has its own kind of flavor and autonomy, but the, the tagline says it all. 88 00:07:17,460 --> 00:07:23,100 It's to seek and share, and it's a very welcoming organization everywhere that you go. 89 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,140 Um, it started off way back (laughs) in 1951. 90 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:39,120 And, know, you have to think the nursery industry is actually pretty young compared to, say, like, Industrial Revolution-type 91 00:07:39,140 --> 00:07:39,920 businesses. 92 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:50,340 So, you know, if you, if you come to the meetings and you hang out with some of our, you know, well-seasoned members, they still talk about when nurseries were 93 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:51,700 using cans. 94 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,260 They mean actual cans, like tin cans to grow plants in. 95 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Uh, that was before plastic pots were available. 96 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:11,400 So really the nursery industry is only about maybe 75 or 80 years into its revolution, 97 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:20,020 and really the last 30 years have probably been the most, the most technological changes and advancements have occurred. 98 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:27,660 So if you think to 1951, it was difficult to even get information on rooting hormones. 99 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:33,300 Uh, you know, auxins and, and natural plant hormones were just starting to be discovered. 100 00:08:33,420 --> 00:08:35,000 And how did you... 101 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:41,180 how would you communicate that without a society and without a proceedings? 102 00:08:41,690 --> 00:08:51,760 And so when you get to the heart of IPPS, it was so that academics could communicate to people in the developing nursery 103 00:08:51,860 --> 00:09:00,530 profession, so that they would have the information to improve, you know, their, their literally their propagation success. 104 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:11,180 So IPPS originally started off as the International Plant Propagators Society, and that was a reflection of that era where if 105 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:21,600 you were a nursery, you produced your plants from either seed, cutting, or graft, then you grew them on most often, either 106 00:09:21,660 --> 00:09:29,780 in a can or in a field, and then you dug them out in the long haul to sell to the end consumer. 107 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:37,620 Well, I mean, fast-forward to 2025, and no part of that nursery structure really even exists now. 108 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:48,820 And, you know, we've, we've had a bit of an identity crisis, I would say really, really probably with the invention of the internet, in that information 109 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,540 has become so much more accessible. 110 00:09:51,570 --> 00:10:02,260 And so in recent years, we've had a, a pretty significant update, which I'm really proud to have been a part of, where we've actually 111 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:12,660 formally changed our name, not our acronym, but our name to the International Plant Production Society to reflect the reality of producing 112 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:23,360 plants now, where you have nurseries that specialize just in propagation, and you have nurseries who buy those plants and grow them on and 113 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:24,860 finish the production cycle. 114 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:35,580 But we didn't want to be categorized as only one part of the full production methodology, which is why changing that word 115 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:38,920 from propagators to production was so valuable. 116 00:10:38,980 --> 00:10:49,089 And, you know, a lot of that change has also come up with plant branding and patenting plants, and it makes sense to have 117 00:10:49,089 --> 00:10:59,920 nurseries that specialize just in young plants because you can manage the royalties of these really well-bred, improved genetics, 118 00:11:00,740 --> 00:11:05,780 and then it doesn't have to follow the line to every single nursery that exists. 119 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:14,990 But that, again, is just keeping in line with the modernization of the nursery industry to better meet the needs of the end consumer. 120 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:25,730 And, you know, IPPS is right there in the center, kind of basically acting as the entity that connects all of those aspects, from the university 121 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:35,920 research, to the growers, to the public gardens, to even the communicators like myself, to be able to make it so that all that information 122 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:46,900 is accessible and that we are always providing the best possible information to everyone who attends our meetings, and then also to ultimately 123 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,640 the people that are buying our plants. 124 00:11:48,780 --> 00:11:59,860 Ping Yu: (instrumental music) So, uh, the Southern Region IPPS, uh, I would say it's the most active 125 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,900 and most, uh, innovative, um, group. 126 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:07,280 Uh, it's one of the groups that we are both saying. 127 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Uh, but, um, uh, do you know-- Like, can you give us a little bit about the background, how the Southern Region, specifically, how does this, 128 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,260 uh, IPPS Southern Region started? 129 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:28,580 'Cause I know the Western Region started ear- a little bit earlier than Southern Region, right? 130 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:39,120 Brie Arthur: Uh, we're so fortunate to have Charlie Parkerson, uh, owner of Lancaster Farms, who had been an, uh, an IPPS member, 131 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:44,600 which at that time, originally there was just one IPPS, and it was in North America. 132 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:44,950 There... 133 00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:50,710 hadn't been thought of to even have IPPS go to other parts of the world. 134 00:12:51,680 --> 00:13:01,760 But, um, Charlie realized that the plant material that needs to be grown for Southern, for the Southern climate was 135 00:13:01,769 --> 00:13:07,680 so vastly different than what's grown in the Northeast, the Midwest or the West Coast. 136 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,720 And so he very wisely saw that there was an opportunity to create a Southern Region charter. 137 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:25,140 And so we moved forward with that, with the, you know, collective group of, of some incredible industry leaders, including Sidney Meadows and, uh, Don 138 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:25,840 Shadow. 139 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,959 And, uh, the goal wasn't to s, you know, separate. 140 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:41,100 It was more to increase exposure and then make it so that each region could really be pretty specific about the plant material that they 141 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:46,400 were diving deep into very specifically for production cycles. 142 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:54,740 And, you know, what we do in the South, because our climate is so different, is vastly different than what would be happening in Massachusetts. 143 00:13:55,580 --> 00:14:05,940 And so with that in mind, the three regions of North America were created to better suit the needs of the people living in these vastly 144 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,580 different geographic areas. 145 00:14:07,620 --> 00:14:09,570 Now, I would say in the last 146 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:17,920 fif- fifteen years, I, I guess probably since the recession of two thousand eight, which really shook... 147 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,399 I mean, it shook everything. 148 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:29,720 It, it shook the green industry very specifically because so many nurseries are tied to new development, and the recession of two thousand and eight 149 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,400 was, you know, very much a real estate recession. 150 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:39,880 Um, you know, we had a, an incredible loss of membership, um, a loss of investments. 151 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:50,460 The society, uh, really had to regroup and, uh, it was a, it was a very treacherous time for, uh, many organizations, and many organizations 152 00:14:50,540 --> 00:14:53,160 simply went out of business entirely. 153 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Um, during that time, the Southern Region was really fortunate to hire the most incredible human being who has ever existed in our 154 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:14,360 executive secretary, Donna Foster, who really brought Southern Region out of the ashes through her ability 155 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:24,530 to keep things organized and her financial astuteness and, and, you know, for many years, Eastern Region had always, 156 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,280 you know, had more membership because there were more nurseries in that region. 157 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:40,129 Um, but there was a, a major transition with that recession and with bringing Donna on, and Southern Region now actually leads all of the 158 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:42,140 regions globally in membership. 159 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:50,120 We had sixty percent of our attendees in our last meeting under the age of forty, 160 00:15:51,980 --> 00:15:53,170 which is... 161 00:15:53,170 --> 00:15:56,059 I never thought those words would come out of my mouth. 162 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,380 Um, I'm, I'm above forty, so I don't count in that, (chuckles) in that age bracket. 163 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,400 When I first started coming to meetings, there... 164 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,700 You know, we, we didn't have that-- we did not have that sort of demographic. 165 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:20,660 Um, I'm also very proud to say that we're over fifty percent in female attendees, which is also a major transition from when I first 166 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,100 started attending these meetings. 167 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,140 And really, the women were generally just the wives of nursery men. 168 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:35,240 And not to say just the wives, because frankly, they were the ones likely running the businesses, uh, doing the books and keeping things in order. 169 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:45,300 But they, they would have separate tours for the women, shopping tours and things where the, the ladies weren't going to visit the nurseries. 170 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:56,110 And I'm quite relieved to see that that has changed in, in my duration of, of attending these meetings because I think if you're coming to the meeting, part 171 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:59,720 of the joy is seeing how other businesses operate. 172 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,920 (chuckles) And I don't necessarily need to go to a mall. 173 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:13,500 I think you and I could both really celebrate this era in which we're coming up through our careers because there are a lot more opportunities 174 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:24,440 for younger women to be able to rise in the ranks and, and, you know, get advanced degrees and, and be, and, and be in 175 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:31,100 a career, a meaningful career that weren't necessarily options for people thirty years ago. 176 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:41,540 This last meeting, we celebrated two of my favorite women, Laura Miller from Texas A&M and Dr. Sandy Wilson from University 177 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,000 of Florida. 178 00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:53,180 Um, I was really thrilled to have two women be recognized for our two highest awards, um, because we don't have as 179 00:17:53,240 --> 00:18:00,380 many women as recipients, um, in that category, but I think we, we have a bright future ahead. 180 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:11,300 And Southern Region has really led that charge, and many of the mentors, both male and female, are the reason that these opportunities exist now, 181 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:11,820 so. 182 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:23,360 Ping Yu: I mean, I was a student attending the, uh, well, participating the Charlie Parkerson's student competition, and now this year I have 183 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:29,040 my student going on the stage and doing the, uh, competition herself. 184 00:18:29,660 --> 00:18:38,780 So I, I can see the linkage or the connections or the corre- um, connections from generation to generation. 185 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:43,060 'Cause I mean, for people like Sandy, like you and some- somebody like Tom, 186 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:54,580 they would say maybe two generations, three generations of people who started as a student and now they are, um, leaders in the industry or in 187 00:18:54,740 --> 00:18:59,040 either in academia or in, in the nursery industry in general. 188 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,390 So I think that's just a magic power that, uh, IPPS Southern Region ways hold. 189 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,510 Brie Arthur: Well, I try and encourage everyone. 190 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:10,290 you know, no matter what 191 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:17,680 facet of horticulture you're focusing on, IPPS has something to offer you. 192 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:28,460 And I think that's what makes it so unique because there aren't a lot of organizations that bring together academics, industry, 193 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:33,380 nursery and greenhouse industry professionals, public garden professionals. 194 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,200 I mean, you know, we have APGA that is for public gardeners. 195 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:40,979 We have ASHS that is for research and academics. 196 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,500 Uh, we have, you know, nursery industry groups that are just for the nursery. 197 00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:56,760 But IPPS is the one that brings all of it together, and it's that interface that I think makes it such an incredibly valuable organization 198 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,380 to be a part of, and also an inexpensive organization to be a part of. 199 00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:12,160 It, we- we're $150 a year, and our meeting, we keep our meeting costs down thanks to generous support from sponsors. 200 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:22,500 And our, our full attendance to an annual meeting is still under $600, um, not including your travel and hotel. 201 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:32,720 But, you know, it's one of the least expensive industry four-day events that you can actually participate in, and we're very conscientious 202 00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:39,560 to keep those prices down, um, so that as many people as possible can attend. 203 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:50,200 Uh, we also offer an incredible array of scholarships, and this year we gave a record-breaking 20 scholarships 204 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,940 to young professionals and students. 205 00:20:55,300 --> 00:21:05,560 Ping Yu: (gentle music) Since you brought it up, uh, can you give, can you give us a more kind of detailed or different categories of those opportunities for 206 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:16,380 the early career, uh, students or, um, anyone within the industry, uh, who wants to be participating or, um, the 207 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:23,120 opportunities for scholarships and awards, um, that Southern Region IPPS, um, is offering? 208 00:21:23,220 --> 00:21:24,740 Brie Arthur: Yes, I am happy to. 209 00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:35,360 And I want to, at this moment, direct everyone to ipps.org and then click to the Southern Region, and then at the top 210 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:39,840 there is a, a, a, the scholarship option. 211 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Um, a few years ago, after, after Coach Vince Dooley passed away from University of Georgia, uh, we created a special student scholarship in honor of him. 212 00:21:50,880 --> 00:22:01,340 And, you know, Coach Dooley was obviously was very famous for being a football coach, but he took a, uh, plant ID class from Dr. Michael Dirr at University 213 00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:09,060 of Georgia and became fascinated with horticulture, and I- it was basically like his second career. 214 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:16,760 I mean, he's- he developed the most remarkable garden and really became a keen plantsman, and we wanted to honor his legacy. 215 00:22:16,940 --> 00:22:25,960 And so we have the Coach Vince Dooley Student Scholarship, which is available for, uh, students that are in a two or four-year program. 216 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:36,980 And this is actually one of our most generous scholarships in that it covers all of your travel, your lodging, your full registration, and you have $250 217 00:22:37,060 --> 00:22:38,540 of additional spending money. 218 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:48,480 Um, in addition to that, we have Margie Jenkins' First-Time Conference Attendee Scholarship, and this was one of my initiatives. 219 00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:55,380 Margie Jenkins was a, a dear friend and mentor of mine, and she passed away in early 2020. 220 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:06,470 She, similar to Coach Dooley, had actually come to horticulture in her 50s and ended up developing one of the most 221 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:16,580 important nurseries in all of Louisiana, and she actually specialized in southern native trees and shrubs, which is a category that we 222 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:19,540 could still use some more development on. 223 00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:25,100 And Margie was the kindest, most generous, most thoughtful human being. 224 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:35,280 This year, we decided to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary by offering five of these scholarships, and I think that the 225 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:45,400 board and, and membership as a whole was so happy with the response that we had that we're gonna be able to continue offering the Margie Jenkins at a, 226 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:53,460 at a larger, uh, rate for really engaging people in each of the different areas that we're at each year. 227 00:23:53,540 --> 00:24:03,900 Uh, you mentioned, um, the Charles Student Research Competition, which, uh, Charlie Parkerson, our, our founder of Southern Region, initiated. 228 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:14,500 And then, um, a few years ago, after Ch- uh, Dr. Charles Gilliam died, uh, professor from Auburn, we renamed it to honor both 229 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,680 Charlies from the Southern Region, so it's now the Charles Student Research Competition. 230 00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:29,840 And then my personal favorite and the program that I'm trying to champion and extend, uh, to be even bigger than we currently offer 231 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,540 is the Early Career Exchange Program. 232 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:43,920 And this started as an exchange just between Southern Region and European Region, and then all the other regions in 233 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:47,360 the IPPS network started to pair up and... 234 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:57,160 I was the recipient of the exchange program in 2014, and I went to Denmark, and it completely changed my life. 235 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,900 I was at a crossroads in my career. 236 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,840 I really didn't know exactly what to do with myself. 237 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:11,840 And when IPPS selected me as that candidate, it boosted my self-esteem. 238 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:22,960 When I arrived to the European region, and everyone was so welcoming and, you know, full of advice and just helpful guidance and, and 239 00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:25,900 I left there on cloud nine. 240 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,740 I'm still dear friends and communicate regularly with all of the people I met 11 years ago. 241 00:25:33,820 --> 00:25:40,860 And if it hadn't been for that, I don't actually know where my career would have even gone at that impasse. 242 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:51,500 And I, I just feel so much gratitude for IPPS for believing in me and giving me that opportunity because it truly was the 243 00:25:51,540 --> 00:26:01,600 difference between me forging my own path and building my own business or sort of reverting back to doing something that I might not have been 244 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,920 nearly as passionate about. 245 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:13,220 Ping Yu: And, and, and, um, it just offers so many opportunities for so many different people in students, young, young professionals who 246 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,660 are, um, doesn't matter with your age. 247 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:27,160 Like you said, if, if horticulture become your second career, you can still be considered as a new, uh, new person in our organization. 248 00:26:27,220 --> 00:26:27,580 You can... 249 00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:31,900 There are, there are still gonna be scholarships that you could apply for. 250 00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:43,420 When you, when, when, when you mention, when you go through the, um, different opportunity or scholarship awards, uh, like, uh, Margie Jenkins and Dooley, I was, I 251 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,800 was able to 252 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,420 meet them before they passed away. 253 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,700 So I met, um, Margie Jenkins in 2019 at, um, Baton Rouge. 254 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:56,700 I was 255 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:08,320 so ins- inspired by her because she was in her 90s-ish, and she, she got a, like a walker and, 256 00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:14,120 full, full of passion talking about plants and walking around. 257 00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:24,220 And, then, uh, in 2020 when I saw the news that she pa- passed away, I was, I was very sad, but I was also very 258 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:33,840 happy when I know that Southern Region IPPS is offering the Margie Jenkins scholarship so that we could remember her forever in that regard. 259 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,820 The same goes to, um, Coach Dooley. 260 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:45,640 Um, I've met him a couple times, and, uh, we were able to tour his place when IPPS was in Athens. 261 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:54,200 Um, so it- I feel like I- I'm still pretty young, but I'm witnessing the, the history, you know. 262 00:27:54,900 --> 00:28:04,820 Uh, and you never know, maybe next peop- next time there will be somebody or maybe a Brie Scholarship, Ping Scholarship. 263 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,660 You never know. 264 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,480 You, you're... 265 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,269 We're making the difference here. 266 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:13,660 Everybody within the indus- within the organization is making a big difference. 267 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:22,940 A- and particularly in Southern region, the board is very proactive to continue offering these opportunities. 268 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:28,020 Brie Arthur: And, you know, like I never had the opportunity to meet Vivian Monday, but it was... 269 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:36,070 she was an incredibly important character in, in Southern horticulture and one of the early female professors. 270 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,860 Um, and so to have her name on part of our scholarship where it's... 271 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,579 she's never going to be forgotten, that's the most important thing. 272 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Ping Yu: (upbeat music) But, uh, for us, IPPS Southern Region, what do you think, what role does the annual conference 273 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:07,400 and, um, in our, um, IPPS region, uh, or IPPS Southern Region meeting play in terms of fo- uh, fostering 274 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:15,220 collaborations and innovation and, well, I guess, um, especially the in-person (laughs) interaction? 275 00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:17,540 Uh, then how, how... 276 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Can you explain that a little bit and why people need to attend it in person? 277 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,320 Brie Arthur: So I, have a lot of background on this. 278 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:36,240 I, uh, I was president of the Southern region, uh, for the, uh, longest time of anyone because I happened to have it during COVID. 279 00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:47,420 And, um, the one silver lining of, of that, uh, horrible year was that it, it did open our opportunity 280 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:56,220 to do the North American Summit, which is really the first time in IPPS history where all three regions have come together and worked collectively. 281 00:29:56,300 --> 00:30:04,240 And so when COVID hit and the meetings got canceled, we took it upon ourselves to organize the North American Summit. 282 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:14,719 And with the incredible help of Dr. Cheryl Boyer, who ran the summit, uh, she was behind the scenes doing all the technical stuff, 283 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,490 (lips smack) uh, that was an extremely successful venture. 284 00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:23,980 I'd say the main takeaway from that, though, was that this is an organization of people. 285 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:32,640 Plants are what unite us, but it's the time we spend together that is what truly matters. 286 00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:43,620 And so, though we've, you know, done other digital programming, what we always come back to is that it's, it's those four days when we're together 287 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,380 is when the synergy happens. 288 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:56,140 And that's why attending the meeting is so incredibly valuable, because you're gonna learn a lot from the tours, you're gonna learn a lot from the education, but you learn 289 00:30:56,220 --> 00:31:06,440 even more from those discussions on the bus or those discussions at lunch or at dinner, you know, those, those casual conversations where you're interacting 290 00:31:06,460 --> 00:31:08,720 with people that you may have never met before. 291 00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:18,420 And it's that interchange that really becomes the thing that's of most value, that you're simply never gonna get from watching a webinar. 292 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:28,600 It's the interpersonal connection that really is what makes this particularly organization so unique and, and so valuable. 293 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:38,960 These are two, like, huge bucket lists locations to visit, and I can't imagine having gone to those places and not been with my IPPS family, doing 294 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:44,300 the thing that I love the most, looking at plants and talking about plants 24 hours a day. 295 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,100 Ping Yu: (laughs) I, I, I... 296 00:31:46,340 --> 00:31:56,540 If you wanted to go on a tour, I mean, I would definitely go with the IPPS International Tour because you got all those wonderful places lined 297 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,860 up already for you. 298 00:31:58,020 --> 00:32:08,100 All you need to do, just go enjoy the tour and talking to people who understand what you're talking about (laughs) instead of, like, being like a weirdo 299 00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:10,120 talking to somebody about the plant. 300 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:11,260 They were like, "What?" 301 00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:13,090 (laughs) You know? 302 00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:14,140 Brie Arthur: Well, exactly. 303 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:22,640 I mean, you know, I laugh because I, I love my family, but they don't wanna go on the same kind of trips as me. 304 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:31,239 Um, they, they think that I take them to botanical gardens to die, (laughs) because they don't quite have the stamina. 305 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:31,960 And I... 306 00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:36,240 Well, at IPPS, we might go to, like, five gardens in a day. 307 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,820 You know, like, we have pace (laughs) I do too. 308 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,980 Ping Yu: (upbeat music) Uh, so can you tell us a little bit, 'cause I know IPPS has... 309 00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:59,520 Well, it, it, like you said, it's a entity that forest where it unites all different, um, perspective of inter- uh, of the industry. 310 00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:10,870 Uh, but can you tell us how does IPPS, um, help bridge the gap b-between academia and, or academic and industry, 311 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,600 um, application? 312 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,740 Brie Arthur: Well, certainly the knowledge share. 313 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,440 Um, I, you know, I, I laugh about this, but, um, 314 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:27,140 I have an affinity for, uh, weed science and soil science. 315 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:36,060 I l- I could just, uh, so- soilless substrates, oh, my gosh, I listen to Dr. Jeb Fields and Dr. Brian Jackson all day long. 316 00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:42,660 Um, and though I focus now entirely on consumer horticulture, 317 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:54,680 there's so much valuable information (laughs) that I get from those, like, highly technical presentations that I can then boil down to be able to better educate 318 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:55,760 the end consumer. 319 00:33:55,790 --> 00:34:03,240 And so I'm, I'm educating a lot of recently retired people who have found horticulture to be a retirement hobby. 320 00:34:03,790 --> 00:34:14,040 And so they're very misinformed, uh, specifically about herbicide use, but, you know, also just about soils and, and fertilization and, 321 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,079 and, you know, plant material choices. 322 00:34:16,140 --> 00:34:26,360 And IPPS is the organization that keeps me well-informed, so that I can be better at my job communicating to the master 323 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:34,740 gardeners and, and at trade events to be able to tell those landscapers what they might not be able to access. 324 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:44,980 And IPPS, because we have such a vigorous education schedule every year, uh, you know, I get 22 new ideas 325 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:54,780 brought to me as a, as a result of attending that meeting, and it, it definitely strengthens my messaging and has made me better at my job. 326 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,360 Um, I hear this from every attendee and, you know, 327 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,720 I get so excited when I see, 328 00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:15,279 as we did see very abundantly this year, so many young professionals, people in their early 30s and 20s attending this meeting and 329 00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:24,020 going back with a fire lit underneath them because they are so excited to go back and apply the information that they just learned. 330 00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:34,420 And I don't see that at every conference that I attend (laughs) but I feel it in depth every time I'm at an IPPS meeting. 331 00:35:34,449 --> 00:35:40,660 And you know, we have a volunteer board, and thank you Ping for being a part of our volunteer board. 332 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:52,160 Um, but our board does such an incredible job and takes their role so seriously in not only from a sponsorship perspective, but education, 333 00:35:52,280 --> 00:36:02,400 planning, looking to the future, our site chairs who do such a remarkable job in selecting not only the venues that we're visiting, but you 334 00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:05,840 know, the hotels that we're actually hosting the conferences at. 335 00:36:05,890 --> 00:36:11,620 And it's the most incredible volunteer organization that I've ever witnessed. 336 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:13,090 And again, I... 337 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:22,180 it's just endless gratitude to get to be a part of it, and I have yet to meet anybody who comes to the meeting and says, "Oh, I don't, I 338 00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:23,600 don't wanna come back next year." 339 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:26,340 You know, that's just not how it is. 340 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:36,560 Everyone, everyone leaves ignited with some new mission and, and new information to share with the other people, you know, 341 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:38,980 their colleagues and other people that they work with. 342 00:36:39,010 --> 00:36:43,020 And it's, it's that, it's that seek and share motto. 343 00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:43,480 Ping Yu: Yeah. 344 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,040 Yeah. 345 00:36:44,050 --> 00:36:51,220 And I am very happy to be on the board, and like I said, I love this organization so much, so I would love to do whatever I can to 346 00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:59,840 help because this organization has lifted me up, and now it's time for me to pay it forward, and I am happy to be part of it and, and then 347 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,480 just move this organization forward. 348 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:12,320 I think what make, uh, the IPPS presentation a little bit unique is IPPS attendees are a mix of extension specialists 349 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,100 and growers. 350 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:25,620 So they can communicate directly because for me as a extension specialist, if I'm going to give a presentation to my growers, 351 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:36,160 I'll make sure my, uh, science-based information are immediately applicable, and they would understand the 352 00:37:36,220 --> 00:37:37,660 moment that they hear that. 353 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:48,720 So I think that's one of the reasons why all those attendees will go back or leave the meeting with all those new information, knowledge that they can apply 354 00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:50,940 right when w- when they get home. 355 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:58,040 Brie Arthur: I was t- telling Jeb Fields, uh (laughs) he, you know, he's done a lot of research on stratified substrates. 356 00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:04,640 And the industry is reluctant because it requires multiple potting machines, and it's complicated. 357 00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:08,380 I'm like, "Oh, but you know who can use that information? 358 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,800 People who have container gardens at home. 359 00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:13,340 They're my people." 360 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:23,740 And so I have a whole container garden program where I'm quoting Dr. Jeb Fields' substrate research (laughs) telling all of these, 361 00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:27,020 you know, master gardeners like, "Oh, you should look up, you know... 362 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:36,190 you can look up his research, you know, he was at LSU, he's at University of Florida now, and you know, to just better understand what particle size means, and 363 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:38,980 being able to hold onto that fertilizer longer." 364 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:47,320 And I would have never known about those concepts had I not been in that room listening to that program. 365 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Um, it's, uh, you know, well, Dr. Jeremy Pickens did a great talk this year on, um, the, the, the trouble that we have with hot pots, 366 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,720 which is a pretty big issue as our summers aren't getting cooler. 367 00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:07,880 And, you know, the advantage of white containers and a cooler root zone. 368 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:18,160 And again, that maybe has even more impact on people like me who talk to the end consumer, uh, because I can then 369 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:28,160 direct people to why, why you should be buying ornamental white pots to grow your tomatoes in to reduce sun scald and whatnot. 370 00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:36,740 So (laughs) I, don't think those researchers are intending to change the lives of retired home gardeners, but they are. 371 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:47,080 Ping Yu: (Instrumental music) So, uh, where do you say the future of the IPPS Southern Region heading in the next 372 00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:47,620 decade? 373 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,300 I mean, I personally would love to say it thrive. 374 00:39:51,980 --> 00:40:02,160 Uh, a- and I think it will, but I would like to hear your opinion on the future of the IPPS Southern Region, and what 375 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:07,020 are the opportunities for, uh, innovations that we are, um, 376 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,020 setting us for longer success? 377 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,780 Brie Arthur: Well, I'm working... 378 00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:20,880 I'm the chair of the Long Range Planning Committee for International, and so I'm devoting a lot of time and energy to this. 379 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:27,900 In fact, I have four documents opened on my computer right now (laughs) to, uh, start to try and hone in. 380 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:34,320 So my big goal personally for 2026 is to double our membership. 381 00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:44,589 But what I would really like to see is our Southern Region membership, which is currently at two hundred and sixty-two, I'd, I'd like to see that rise to about 382 00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:45,360 five hundred. 383 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:56,420 Um, I keep saying to people that if each one of us brought one new member in, we would double our membership, and it does start person 384 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,220 to person. 385 00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:07,520 And that's the thing I keep saying, lead by example, and I'm personally trying to lead by example, and Southern Region is trying to lead IPPS 386 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,200 as a whole. 387 00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:18,080 Um, I think our, our biggest challenge is, is just raising awareness and getting the next generation to see the value of membership. 388 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:21,400 And this has been something that, um, 389 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:27,780 once they come, they see it, but until they come, they don't understand. 390 00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:34,840 And so there's not one simple solution for capturing everyone's attention. 391 00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:46,400 But through, you know, outreach at trade shows and social media and YouTube and a well-coordinated website and, again, this person-to-person 392 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,960 interaction, I think we have an incredibly bright future. 393 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:58,500 Um, I always go back to, though, that plants are what bring us together, but people are the reason that we gather. 394 00:41:59,210 --> 00:41:59,600 And 395 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,699 once you come to an IPPS meeting, you'll find your people, and you'll want to come every year. 396 00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:12,660 Uh, one of our big advantages is that our meetings do move throughout our region every year. 397 00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:16,000 So, you know, this year we were in Orlando. 398 00:42:16,030 --> 00:42:18,800 In 2026, we'll be in Houston, Texas. 399 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:23,240 In 2027, we'll be in Charlottesville, Virginia. 400 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:30,860 So, you know, even if Houston is too far for you to come, perhaps Charlottesville would be more conveniently located. 401 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:41,060 And I see that as an incredible strength that we offer almost hyper-regionalism as we move from city to city every year. 402 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:45,980 And a strength of Southern Region is that we like to plan ahead. 403 00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:56,200 And (laughs) you know, we're actively making plans, um, all the way until we host the next international tour in 2030, which- Yeah, 404 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:06,820 and I, I think since I joined the, uh, uh, c- board, um, I, I get to see something behind the scene, and I get to know that why 405 00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:14,480 the IPPS Southern Region is surviving because we are so plan... 406 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,140 We, we plan so ahead, and I am a planner myself. 407 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:23,600 So I was like, "Okay, this year we're going to do this, next year, next year or the year after." 408 00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:27,060 We have the goal, we have the plan, and so we just keep continue. 409 00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:37,400 So I think that's one of the reasons why I have a hundred percent of faith that, uh, Southern Region IPPS is going to be better and better, uh, 410 00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:40,180 especially with our next generation. 411 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,560 Um, we keep getting those new blood into this organization and, uh, those new ideas. 412 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,500 (upbeat music) Uh, with that in mind, 413 00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:03,100 can you, uh, share some of the ways, um, that people can easily go follow what's going on with Southern Region IPPS, um, the 414 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:13,460 website, the social media, and, um, can you share any of those, those informations, those listeners who wants to check out more, uh, they can easily find those information? 415 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,000 Brie Arthur: Okay. 416 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:20,760 We are on Facebook at IPPS Southern Region. 417 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:29,020 We are on Instagram at IPPS underscore Southern underscore Region. 418 00:44:29,110 --> 00:44:34,900 (laughs) We are on YouTube at IPPS Videos. 419 00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:43,140 Um, if you go to our website, ipps.org, and go to the, 420 00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:50,380 um, regions tab and go down to the Southern North... 421 00:44:50,740 --> 00:44:56,920 I'm sorry, Southern North America, uh, you will get to our homepage. 422 00:44:57,460 --> 00:45:06,780 And on there, you will easily see upcoming events and all of our recent news, which, um, gives you quick links to everything. 423 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,440 Scholarships are all due June 1st. 424 00:45:10,299 --> 00:45:20,970 (laughs) We start-- we really open it up in January, but, uh, we really primarily start promoting the scholarships, uh, and awards, uh, 425 00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,000 in March, but all the deadlines are June 1. 426 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,540 So remember that, everybody. 427 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:33,880 (laughs) But I hope everyone will, uh, give us a follow on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. 428 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:41,680 Um, and then, you know, join our newsletter, uh, so that you can easily stay up to date with everything that we have going on. 429 00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:49,360 And, um, well, we have a lot of fun, new content to be able to share going into twenty twenty-six. 430 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:59,740 And I just wanna go ahead and end on save the date for Houston, Texas, October 18 through 431 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,780 22nd of 2026. 432 00:46:03,580 --> 00:46:07,880 Uh, we have an incredible local site chair in, uh, Paul Winski. 433 00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:09,540 He has a great team. 434 00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:18,240 Um, it's already all organized and, and put together, and details are gonna be landing on the website in early 2026. 435 00:46:18,940 --> 00:46:29,320 Uh, we open registration typically, uh, the end of July, and we look forward to welcoming everyone to our Houston meeting 436 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,320 next October. 437 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,360 Ping Yu: That's, that's great. 438 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:39,620 Well, um, thank you, Brie, for taking time out of your busy schedule to talk with us, um, with IPPS. 439 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,700 I do feel like this will be, um... 440 00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:44,680 I don't know. 441 00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:54,700 I feel like all those IPPS members would love this because we are trying to promote it and bring the, uh, passion and, um... 442 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:05,100 Mm, and knowledge to a larger audience, and hopefully we can, um, all together, we can build a brighter future for our industry. 443 00:47:06,780 --> 00:47:08,120 Brie Arthur: Wholeheartedly agree. 444 00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:09,560 The future is green. 445 00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,120 Ping Yu: (laughs) All right. 446 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:12,200 Uh, thank you, Brie. 447 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:19,300 (outro jingle) Conversation like this only happen when you support the show. 448 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:27,960 For more information and find ways to support us, please 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