29:59

S01:E01 Nov 18, 2025

Planting Seeds: How One Horticulturist Found Her Way to the Plant Jungle

Blooms and Beyond - Season 1, Episode 1 Episode Title: “Planting Seeds: How One Horticulturist Found Her Way to the Plant Jungle” Episode Description Welcome to the very first episode of Blooms and Beyond! Join host Dr. Ping Yu, PhD student Yan Zhang, and producer Rich Braman as they introduce you to a podcast that explores plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science. In this inaugural episode, discover the personal journeys that led two people into the wonderful world of horticulture - from a childhood gardenia propagation competition in rural China to thrips research powered by passion and purpose. Listen Time: ~29 minutes In This Episode Meet Your Hosts & Team Dr. Ping Yu - Assistant Professor and Ornamental Horticulture Extension Specialist at the University of Georgia Yan Zhang - First-year PhD student researching thrips and integrated pest management Rich Braman - Systems Administrator and Developer at UGA’s Center for Urban Agriculture Journey Stories Ping’s Path to Horticulture (02:20 - 06:52) Growing up in Dujiangyan, Sichuan Province, China - home to giant pandas, a 2,000-year-old irrigation system, and spicy food A childhood gardenia propagation competition at age 10 (spoiler: she won!) From architecture dreams to falling in love with horticulture Educational journey: Sichuan Normal University → Nanjing Forestry University → Texas A&M → University of Florida → UGA The fascinating crossover between landscape design and plant science Yan’s Research Focus (00:54 - 01:34) Specializing in thrips, integrated pest management, and ornamental plants Previous work on bark beetles during master’s degree Learning to see research as exploration, not just results What Extension Work Really Means (07:18 - 09:12) Supporting commercial nursery and greenhouse growers Tackling irrigation, nutrients, substrate management, and production issues Interdisciplinary collaboration with entomology, plant pathology, and weed science The power of extension agents serving Georgia’s green industry Plant Spotlight: Sunflowers 🌻 The Science of Sun-Tracking (10:04 - 12:00) Meet Helianthus annuus (sun + flower + annual) How young sunflowers track the sun from east to west The role of auxin in creating heliotropic movement Uneven cell growth that bends the stem toward light The Art of Van Gogh (12:00 - 14:09) Vincent van Gogh’s sunflower series (1887-1889) Sunflowers as symbols of gratitude, friendship, and the cycle of life Bold yellows exploring light, hope, and spiritual radiance Why sunflowers inspire courage: “Life is worth living and there’s always hope. Just keep going on.” Birth of the Podcast From Thrips Talks to Blooms and Beyond (14:50 - 19:24) How Yan’s PhD research sparked the idea American Floral Endowment Educational Grant support Originally planned as six episodes about thrips management Expanded to cover the broader “plant jungle” and plant power “Once you step in, you don’t want to step out” The Vision (19:26 - 23:55) Tagline: Plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science Weaving enchanting stories with practical management practices Every plant has a story to tell Serving two audiences: commercial professionals seeking solutions AND plant enthusiasts wanting to brag about cool plant facts Topics You’ll Hear About: Irrigation management Plant hunting Labor management and techniques Career preparation Integrated Pest Management (IPM) Historical and cultural plant stories And so much more! Paying It Forward Mentors Who Changed Everything (25:00 - 27:54) Dr. James Robbins (retired professor, University of Arkansas) Dr. Mengmeng Gu (now Dean of Extension at Colorado State University) A chance meeting in Nanjing that opened doors to the American dream The power of encouragement: “Why don’t you start preparing your English test and see how it goes?” Philosophy: “Pay it forward” to help the next generation Key Quotes “Every plant has a story to tell. They didn’t just magically show up today in your garden or nursery. They have been selected, hybridized, shipped long distances. Somewhere along the line, they have crazy stories to tell.” — Dr. Ping Yu “Every time I saw sunflower, I would have the courage to carry on with whatever struggle that I may have. Life is worth living and there’s always hope. Just keep going on.” — Dr. Ping Yu “My experience taught me how to see research as an exploration, not just about the results, but about learning from every attempt.” — Yan Zhang “Nobody really cares about your research unless they can relate to your research.” — Dr. Ping Yu (quoting her PhD professor) “We really do never go anywhere alone, do we?” — Rich Braman Educational Highlights What is IPM (Integrated Pest Management)? A comprehensive approach to pest control that combines multiple strategies: Cultural practices Biological control Chemical control (when necessary) Goal: Minimize economic and environmental risks while keeping pests at manageable levels Scientific Name Fun Fact: Helianthus annuus breaks down to: Helios = sun (Greek/Latin) Anthos = flower Annuus = annual Scientific names can tell you characteristics of the plant! Resources & Links Visit the Show: Website: bandbpod.com Show notes and additional resources at bandbpod.com Get Involved: Subscribe to the podcast Leave a review Share with fellow plant lovers Support the show (details at bandbpod.com) Funding: This episode is supported by the American Floral Endowment Educational Grant, whose mission is to fund educational programs to promote more young people into the horticulture industry. About Blooms and Beyond Blooms and Beyond is a podcast that covers plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science. Whether you’re a commercial grower looking for management solutions, a student exploring horticulture careers, or someone who just loves plants and their stories, you’ll find something here for you. Hosted by Dr. Ping Yu from the University of Georgia, each episode features interviews with experts who bring enchanting stories, pioneering research, and practical wisdom from the world of horticulture. Your Takeaway: When you walk away from each episode, commercial professionals should have at least one piece of advice to help with production, and plant enthusiasts should have one cool fact to share about plants. Because that’s how we spread plant power to a larger audience and make the environment a little bit better. Credits Host: Dr. Ping Yu Featured Guests: Yan Zhang, Rich Braman Producer/Technical Host: Rich Braman Support: American Floral Endowment Educational Grant Episode Release Date: November 17th, 2025 Episode Length: 29:53 “Till next time, stay healthy and go plants!” 🌱🌻🌿

26:58

S01:E02 Dec 1, 2025

Growing Together: Inside AFE's Mission for Floriculture with Laura Barth

Blooms and Beyond - Season 1, Episode 2 Episode Title: “Growing Together: Inside AFE’s Mission for Floriculture” Episode Description What happens when a music major moves to North Carolina and falls in love with plants? In this episode, Dr. Ping Yu sits down with Laura Barth, Research Coordinator for the American Floral Endowment (AFE), to explore how this nonprofit organization supports the entire floriculture industry—from funding research to awarding scholarships. Discover what AFE does for growers and researchers, why the floriculture industry is “surprisingly friendly,” and how trends like AI, drones, and e-commerce are shaping the future. Plus, Laura reveals her favorite flower (hint: it looks like a craft project made of tissue paper!) and both hosts share how flowers can boost your mood—that’s plant power! Listen Time: ~27 minutes In This Episode Featured Guest Laura Barth — Research Coordinator, American Floral Endowment Facilitates AFE’s research programs and outreach Former AFE scholarship recipient Background in music performance and horticulture science from NC State Main Topics Laura’s Journey to Horticulture (01:35 - 03:17) First degree in music performance in Wisconsin Moving to North Carolina sparked her love of plants “All I wanted to do was be outside and garden” Discovered NC State’s horticulture program in Chapel Hill The Connection Between Art and Floriculture (04:03 - 05:15) Creativity in floral design and landscaping Artistic side of creating outreach materials Famous plant paintings: sunflowers, iris, water lily, pear blossom What is AFE? (05:46 - 06:43) 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization Funds research, internships, scholarships, and educational programs An endowment: “the money isn’t going anywhere” Industry-funded, resources go back to industry for free Both Ping and Laura are former AFE scholarship recipients Floriculture Industry Status (07:26 - 08:11) Cut flower production: field, greenhouse, hoop house Young plants, finished plants, all stages of growth Perennials, bulbs, foliage, and succulents Growing interest in locally grown cut flowers U-Pick Farms and Georgia’s Floriculture (08:12 - 08:58) Rise of small cut flower farms with u-pick options Georgia’s floriculture history: 2008-2009 recession impact Industry gradually recovering Hard Goods (09:06 - 10:03) AFE board meeting visit to Floral Mart in Peachtree Corners, Georgia The Garcia family’s floral materials for weddings and more High-quality floral products, ribbons, and wire Industry Challenges (10:27 - 11:44) Labor shortages (potential solutions through internships, automation, AI) Thrips, botrytis, spider mites, Lewis mites Inflation impacting consumer gardening purchases Uncertainty with federal funding for floriculture research Long-term impacts of funding cuts may not be visible for 5-10 years E-Commerce Impact (11:46 - 13:14) Brick and mortar florists losing business Miami import hub: arrangements assembled for e-commerce Younger generation interested in online plant shops Social media driving houseplant trends Sustainabloom (13:15 - 14:44) AFE launched Sustainabloom resource hub in 2022 Resources for all industry segments Young consumers researching product sustainability Europe has more regulations; US industry staying ahead of trends Sustainability in Practice (14:45 - 15:49) Biodegradable containers Reducing chemical leachate Implementing IPM practices Consumers willing to pay extra for sustainable products Favorite Plant: Ranunculus (15:51 - 17:26) Laura’s current favorite: ranunculus Saw stunning varieties at ProFlora in Colombia “They look like a craft project—rows of tissue paper stuck together” Favorite flower changes with mood and season Plant Power and Mood (17:27 - 18:12) Plants can influence your mood “Go out for a walk and see plants… they can make you feel happy again” Even just looking at flowers brings peace Flowers as Lifestyle (18:13 - 20:04) Ping’s love of Trader Joe’s flower section Weekly bouquet as affordable self-care The Lady of the Camellias by Alexandre Dumas European fresh markets and flower culture Emily in Paris lifestyle: grab a bouquet, wander the city Future of the Industry (20:06 - 21:25) Increased sustainability efforts AI integration in all aspects of production Drones with AI/machine learning for disease and nutrient detection Dispensing biological controls Automation, SOPs, and tool development More research proposals involving AI and machine learning E-Commerce Future (21:27 - 22:19) Next generation opening online stores GrowPro webinar with Melinda Knuth on younger consumer purchasing Different crop types for e-commerce: niche succulents, houseplants Advice for Young Growers (22:20 - 23:50) Use free AFE resources Attend conferences, go on tours Reach out to local Extension offices “You don’t have to spend a ton of money to reinvent the wheel” Industry is “surprisingly friendly and surprisingly open” Competitors willing to share knowledge Finding Resources (24:44 - 25:42) endowment.org for AFE research reports and GrowPro webinars Cooperative Extension for local support “We’re here to help” Key Highlights Laura’s Journey: Music performance degree → Move to North Carolina → Fell in love with plants → NC State horticulture program AFE Impact: 501(c)(3) nonprofit funding research, scholarships, internships, and educational programs Sustainabloom: AFE’s 2022 resource hub for industry sustainability efforts Industry Challenges: Labor, pests (thrips, botrytis, mites), inflation, federal funding uncertainty Future Trends: AI, drones, machine learning, e-commerce, sustainability Industry Culture: “Surprisingly friendly”—competitors share knowledge openly Plant Power: Flowers boost mood and represent a lifestyle choice Key Quotes “I’m trying to write this essay about why I want to do this, and I’m like, ‘You know what? I really just kind of want to be outside.’ Hmm, maybe that’s my answer.” — Laura Barth “I absolutely think there is a connection between art and horticulture. And especially in floriculture, when you’re seeing floral designers and some of the landscaping, I think there really is creativity to a lot of our industry.” — Laura Barth “The best thing about AFE is that it is an endowment so the money isn’t going anywhere. We’re supported by the industry through industry funds and everything we put out goes directly back to the industry for free.” — Laura Barth “You don’t have to spend a ton of money to reinvent the wheel. And also I would say our industry is surprisingly friendly and surprisingly open with how much knowledge we’re willing to share.” — Laura Barth “I call it plant power, and it can really influence your mood. If you don’t feel well or if you feel upset, go out for a walk and then see all those plants outside… they can make you feel happy again.” — Dr. Ping Yu “I think that’s the reason that our whole industry thrives… Because if we’re all eating, it’s better for everybody.” — Laura Barth Educational Highlights What is AFE (American Floral Endowment)? A 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that supports the floriculture industry through: Research funding Scholarships and internships Educational programs (including GrowPro webinars) Resources that go back to the industry for free What is Sustainabloom? Launched by AFE in 2022, Sustainabloom is a resource hub where people from all segments of the floriculture industry can find resources to help them become more sustainable, no matter where they are in their journey. What is Floriculture? The segment of horticulture focused on flowering and ornamental plants, including: Cut flower production (field, greenhouse, hoop house) Potted plants (young plants to finished) Perennials, bulbs, foliage, and succulents Hard goods (faux flowers, ribbons, supplies) What are Hard Goods? In the floral industry, “hard goods” refers to non-living floral supplies including high-quality faux/artificial flowers, ribbons, wire, containers, and other materials used in arrangements. Resources & Links American Floral Endowment: Website: endowment.org Research Reports GrowPro Webinar Series Sustainabloom Resource Hub Cooperative Extension: Contact your local Extension office for floriculture resources Blooms and Beyond: Website: bandbpod.com Show notes and additional resources About Blooms and Beyond Blooms and Beyond is a podcast that covers plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science. Whether you’re a commercial grower looking for management solutions, a student exploring horticulture careers, or someone who just loves plants and their stories, you’ll find something here for you. Hosted by Dr. Ping Yu from the University of Georgia, each episode features interviews with experts who bring enchanting stories, pioneering research, and practical wisdom from the world of horticulture. About the Guest Laura Barth serves as the Research Coordinator for the American Floral Endowment, where she facilitates research programs and outreach. Her journey to horticulture began unexpectedly—after earning a degree in music performance, a move from Wisconsin to North Carolina opened her eyes to the beauty of plants and flowers. She went on to earn undergraduate and graduate degrees in horticulture science from North Carolina State University. As a former AFE scholarship recipient herself, Laura understands firsthand the impact of AFE’s programs on the next generation of horticulturists. Credits Host: Dr. Ping Yu Guest: Laura Barth, American Floral Endowment Producer: Rich Braman Episode Release Date: November 30th, 2025 Episode Length: ~27 minutes “Till next time, stay healthy and go plants!” 🌱🌻🌿

55:35

S01:E03 Dec 7, 2025

Inside the Green Industry: A Lifelong Journey in Horticulture with Dr. Michael Martin

Blooms and Beyond - Season 1, Episode 3 Episode Title: “Inside the Green Industry: A Lifelong Journey in Horticulture with Dr. Michael Martin” Episode Description What does it take to turn a childhood love of plants into a lifelong career? In this episode, Dr. Ping Yu sits down with her dear friend and colleague Dr. Michael Martin, Science Research and Regulatory Programs Director at American Hort and the Horticultural Research Institute (HRI). From sticking azalea cuttings at age five to becoming the ultimate “matchmaker” between growers and researchers, Michael shares the winding path that led him through agricultural education, nursery inspection, native plant nursery ownership, and a PhD at the University of Georgia. Discover what really goes on behind the scenes of the green industry—from the 18-month journey a geranium takes to reach your local garden center, to the family legacies passed down through plant cuttings for over a century. Michael offers invaluable advice for anyone considering a career in horticulture: work for others first, embrace learning, and never underestimate the power of showing up in person. Listen Time: ~55 minutes In This Episode Featured Guest Dr. Michael Martin - Science Research and Regulatory Programs Director, American Hort and Horticultural Research Institute (HRI). Lifelong horticulturist with experience spanning nursery inspection, native plant nursery ownership, and academic research. Main Topics Meet Michael Martin (01:24 - 02:05) Current role at American Hort and HRI Started in horticulture at age five, sticking azalea cuttings “Every job I’ve had has been directly related to the horticultural industry” What is American Hort? (02:46 - 05:35) National Trade Association for nurseries, greenhouses, and independent retailers Legislative arm with lobbyists in Washington, D.C. Currently addressing cotton jassid (two-spotted cotton leafhopper) in the Southeast Service organization helping growers with pest, disease, and regulatory issues The Horticultural Research Institute (HRI) (04:18 - 05:35) Research foundation arm of American Hort Provides scholarships, research grants, and leadership academy 100% industry-supported—no federal or state funding Michael’s role as “matchmaker” connecting growers with researchers Michael’s Career Journey (06:02 - 10:42) Mentors: Bob and Bill Head at Head-Lee Nursery, Jeff and Lisa Beasley at Transplant Nursery High school ag teacher in Walhalla, South Carolina showed horticulture as a career Bachelor’s and Master’s at Clemson University (agricultural education focus) Taught for one year, decided it wasn’t for him Worked as nursery inspector in South Carolina for five years Started native plant nursery serving Lake Keowee riparian zone requirements (10 years) PhD at University of Georgia under Matthew Chappell Connected through Paul Thomas (“PT”) in a chance hallway encounter The Journey of a Plant (11:43 - 14:37) Geranium cuttings for Spring 2026 are being produced now (September 2025) Cuttings produced in Central and South America, shipped to U.S. for finishing 6-8 month journey from cutting to consumer purchase Plant breeders work 5-10 years ahead developing new varieties “Hundreds, if not thousands of people involved” in getting one plant to market Favorite Plant: Tricyrtis (Toad Lilies) (16:23 - 18:05) Purchased for 25 cents at Park Seed grower’s days as a child Either Tricyrtis hirta or T. formosana ‘Stolonifera’ Still growing on family farm 30-40 years later Shade plant that flowers in fall Symbolizes good fortune, prosperity, elegance, and long life in Asian culture Family Plant Legacies (18:40 - 20:49) Philadelphus odorata (mock orange) passed through four generations Mother’s cutting came from grandmother in Greenville, SC Plant has been in family for over 100 years Shortia galacifolia (Oconee bells) story: lost for 100 years after Asa Gray’s pressed specimen was sent from England to France, rediscovered by child playing in woods Green Industry Status (21:16 - 24:28) Industry did “phenomenally well” during and after COVID Many discovered indoor gardening and gardening in general Curbside pickup became permanent sales methodology for some nurseries 2025 has been a “good year”—not great, not terrible Fall is best time to plant, though consumers prefer spring American-Made vs. Imported Plants (24:28 - 29:03) Trees and woody shrubs: predominantly sole-source produced in U.S. Herbaceous annuals: cuttings mostly from Central and South America Day length and temperature requirements make offshore production practical Poinsettia cuttings produced in Central/South America during summer “You can put a thousand cuttings in a regular cardboard box” Quality Standards Evolution (29:43 - 31:00) 20 years ago, quality standards had to be written into contracts Now high quality is the expectation and industry norm Growers “pride themselves on having high quality plants” Trade Show Changes (31:00 - 33:53) Named varieties were rare when Michael started; now they’re expected Trade shows have consolidated due to cost Growers have become “more selective in the shows that we exhibit at” Some growers used to do 8-10 shows per year Industry Challenges (33:54 - 36:55) Labor is the biggest issue Legislative team working on H-2A and H-2B visa programs Automation increasing, particularly for jobs with higher injury rates Phytosanitary work offers excellent job security Cotton jassid currently affecting Southeast (cotton, okra, ornamentals) Researcher-Grower Relationships (37:44 - 40:22) “Call. Call the grower and say, ‘Hey, can I come and meet you?’” Growers want to see your face and know you care Walking the rows reveals information they won’t share over phone/email Anecdotal observations can become research opportunities Growers want to be involved and see how their support is used Career Opportunities (42:51 - 45:00) Sales representatives (may never see a plant) Input suppliers: containers, substrates, fertilizers, tags/labels NFC tags for plant data—new technology Plant breeders, facility engineers Area growers → section growers → head growers Succession Planning (46:50 - 50:30) Many owners aging out of the industry Traditional transfers: family to next generation Non-traditional transfers: leadership or outside parties take over gradually American Hort provides roadmaps for both types May be 10-year gradual transition plans “Start putting feelers out” at trade shows if interested in ownership Advice for Young Growers (50:30 - 53:33) Work for somebody else first—don’t open your own business day one Some family operations require 5-10 years elsewhere before joining Go on nursery and greenhouse tours, take pictures Join associations: American Hort, IPPS, state associations “That knowledge, that information that they have as growers, that is so valuable that I honestly can’t put a price on it” Key Quotes “I am currently the Science Research and Regulatory Programs Director with American Hort in the Horticultural Research Institute, HRI. I have been working in the horticulture industry almost my entire life. One of my first jobs was when I was five, sticking azalea cuttings, because that was the easiest job I could do.” — Dr. Michael Martin “There is nothing wrong with deciding, ‘Hey, this is not where I want to be. I need to go back and look at something else.’” — Dr. Michael Martin “When you go to buy, let’s say, a geranium in the spring, that’s the finish line for that plant… The companies that produce the cuttings for the geraniums, they’re producing those cuttings for the spring of 2026 right now.” — Dr. Michael Martin “This plant, through its lineage, at least for a hundred years, has been in our family. And so, like you…, I like the history of plants just as much as I do the plants themselves.” — Dr. Michael Martin (on his family’s Philadelphus) “They are your competitors, but they’re happy to help you because your success is their success.” — Dr. Michael Martin “Work for somebody else first. That is my first suggestion. Don’t open your own business day one. Go get experience.” — Dr. Michael Martin Educational Highlights What is American Hort? The National Trade Association serving nurseries, greenhouses, independent retailers, and anyone working in ornamental horticulture. They advocate for the industry through legislative efforts, provide regulatory guidance, and help growers navigate challenges like pest outbreaks and policy changes. What is HRI (Horticultural Research Institute)? The research foundation arm of American Hort that provides scholarships, research grants, and leadership development. Entirely industry-funded, HRI connects growers with researchers to solve real-world production challenges. Plant Production Timeline Spring annuals: Cuttings produced 6-8 months ahead in Central/South America Woody plants: Even longer production cycles New varieties: 5-10 years of breeding and development before reaching market Phytosanitary Work Plant health inspection and protection, including disease, insect, and invasive plant monitoring. Career opportunities exist at state level, federal level (USDA APHIS PPQ), and within large nursery operations. Key Agencies & Organizations Mentioned USDA APHIS - Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service PPQ - Plant Protection and Quarantine (division of APHIS) National Plant Board - State plant health regulatory officers SPHDs - State Plant Health Directors (federal officers in each state) IPPS - International Plant Propagators’ Society Succession Planning Types Traditional: Family-to-family generational transfer Non-Traditional: Transfer to non-family leadership or outside parties, often through gradual multi-year transition plans Plant Spotlight 🌿 Tricyrtis (Toad Lilies) Native to Japan (T. hirta) and China/Taiwan (T. formosana) Shade-loving perennials that bloom in fall Orchid-like flowers with spotted patterns In Asian culture: symbolize good fortune, prosperity, elegance, and long life Shortia galacifolia (Oconee Bells) Very limited distribution in northern South Carolina Lost to science for 100 years after botanist Asa Gray’s pressed specimen was sent from England to France Rediscovered when a child brought flowers home from the woods Example of how plant history connects us to botanical exploration Resources & Links American Hort: Website: americanhort.org Visit the Show: Website: bandbpod.com Show notes and additional resources at bandbpod.com Get Involved: Subscribe to the podcast Leave a review Share with fellow plant lovers Support the show (details at bandbpod.com) About Blooms and Beyond Blooms and Beyond is a podcast that covers plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science. Whether you’re a commercial grower looking for management solutions, a student exploring horticulture careers, or someone who just loves plants and their stories, you’ll find something here for you. Hosted by Dr. Ping Yu from the University of Georgia, each episode features interviews with experts who bring enchanting stories, pioneering research, and practical wisdom from the world of horticulture. Your Takeaway: When you walk away from each episode, commercial professionals should have at least one piece of advice to help with production, and plant enthusiasts should have one cool fact to share about plants. Because that’s how we spread plant power to a larger audience and make the environment a little bit better. Credits Host: Dr. Ping Yu Featured Guest: Dr. Michael Martin, American Hort / HRI Producer: Rich Braman Episode Release Date: December 7th, 2025 Episode Length: 55:30 “Till next time, stay healthy and go plants!” 🌱🌻🌿

45:18

S01:E04 Dec 22, 2025

IPM Basics: Building Your Pest Management Toolbox with Dr. Erich Schoeller

Blooms and Beyond - Season 1, Episode 4 Episode Title: “IPM Basics: Building Your Pest Management Toolbox with Dr. Erich Schoeller” Episode Description What if the secret to healthier plants isn’t reaching for the spray bottle, but building a smarter system? In this episode, Dr. Ping Yu sits down with Dr. Erich Schoeller, an entomologist and IPM specialist at the University of Georgia, to break down the fundamentals of Integrated Pest Management. From the IPM pyramid to parasitoid wasps, from banker plants to predatory mites, Erich walks us through the science-based strategies that can help growers reduce pesticide use while keeping pests in check. Along the way, discover how a pharmacy student became an entomologist, why tephritid fruit flies are surprisingly beautiful, and the enchanting Greek mythology behind lilacs. Whether you’re a commercial grower looking to build an IPM program or a plant enthusiast curious about the tiny creatures sharing your garden, this episode delivers practical wisdom with a side of wonder. Listen Time: ~45 minutes Consulte las Notas del Programa In This Episode Featured Guest Dr. Erich Schoeller — Assistant Professor, Department of Entomology, University of Georgia. Erich specializes in controlled environment agriculture and integrated pest management for greenhouse and nursery production. His research focuses on biological control strategies for ornamental crops. Host Dr. Ping Yu — Assistant Professor and Ornamental Horticulture Extension Specialist, University of Georgia Main Topics Getting to Know Dr. Schoeller (00:49 - 07:15) Career journey: pharmacy school → marine biology → forestry → entomology Growing up in rural Wisconsin surrounded by nature Running through fields with a sweep net collecting insects His mom’s beautiful gardens sparking a love of plants Favorite Insect & Plant (06:16 - 09:36) Favorite insect: Tephritid fruit flies — brightly colored with fascinating wing patterns, remembered from childhood apple picking Favorite plant: Lilacs (Syringa) — his grandmother’s patio surrounded by lilacs created lasting memories of their spring fragrance The Greek mythology of Syringa: the nymph who escaped the god Pan by transforming into a lilac shrub What is IPM? (10:09 - 12:07) IPM = Integrated Pest Management (sometimes IPPM for Integrated Pest and Pathogen Management) A science-based decision support system aimed at reducing plant protection products to levels that are economically sustainable and safe for environment and human health A combination of tactics working together as a program Defining “Pests” (11:09 - 13:06) Arthropod pests: insects and mites (arachnids) Insects can vector plant pathogens — controlling pests often controls disease Weeds are pests too — they compete for resources AND harbor insects Simply put: anything unwanted causing economic damage to your crop Why Adopt IPM? (13:32 - 17:15) Pros: Reduces reliance on synthetic broad-spectrum insecticides Protects soil health and beneficial microorganisms Slows pesticide resistance development Safer for environment and human health The Resistance Problem: Insects reproduce rapidly (10-12 generations per year in warm climates) Hundreds of thousands of individuals = rapid evolution of resistance Over-reliance on single active ingredients breeds resistance Managing Resistance: Rotate products with different modes of action (check IRAC categories) Use maximum label rates to reduce surviving populations Don’t repeatedly use the same active ingredient The IPM Pyramid (17:16 - 21:24) Layer 1 — Prevention (Base): Crop rotation — don’t keep the same crop in the same greenhouse year-round Resistant varieties — plant breeders develop varieties less susceptible to pest damage Prevention is the best medicine — saves money by avoiding problems Layer 2 — Detection: Active scouting — walking through crops, thorough inspection, taking notes Passive scouting — sticky traps that attract and catch flying insects Document where and when problems occur for predictability Layer 3 — Control: Cultural/Mechanical control — sanitation, pruning, proper clothing, gloves Biological control — using living organisms to control pests Chemical control — the last resort (biorational → targeted → broad spectrum) Banker Plants vs. Trap Crops (23:07 - 26:05) Banker Plants (Biological Control): Non-crop plants placed in or adjacent to the crop Support natural enemies/biological control agents Help predators, parasitoids, and beneficial organisms thrive Trap Crops (Cultural Control): Plants more attractive to pests than your actual crop Pests prefer the trap crop, leaving your main crop alone Example: Sweet alyssum attracts thrips away from impatiens Can spray or destroy trap crop to eliminate concentrated pests Challenges of Ornamental IPM (26:23 - 30:07) Low tolerance for damage — ornamentals are sold for aesthetics; any visible pest damage reduces value Crop diversity — hundreds of different plants in a small space, each with different pest susceptibilities Complexity — many pests requiring many tactics in limited area Closed environments — in greenhouses, natural enemies can’t migrate when prey is depleted; populations collapse Cons of IPM: Can cost ~20% more than traditional chemical control Technically complex and requires ongoing education More frequent monitoring required Takes longer to work than broad-spectrum insecticides Biocontrol Examples (32:05 - 37:20) For Sweet Potato Whitefly (Bemisia tabaci): Parasitoid wasps: Encarsia formosa (developed in 1920s), Eretmocerus species Predatory beetles: Delphastus catalinae (family Coccinellidae) Predatory bugs: Orius insidiosus Commercial suppliers often provide mixes for best coverage For Western Flower Thrips (Frankliniella occidentalis): Predatory bugs: Orius insidiosus Predatory mites: Amblyseius swirskii No effective parasitoids available for thrips Generalist vs. Specialist Biocontrol: Swirskii and Orius are generalists — feed on thrips, whiteflies, spider mites But no “magic bullet” controls everything Specialists often more effective for specific pests Still need different solutions for mealybugs, scales, fungus gnats Four Keys to IPM Success (38:22 - 40:43) Education — Know what your options are and how they work; train your employees too Know Your Risks — Identify entry points for pests and susceptible crop locations; focus monitoring on high-risk areas Diligence — Scout weekly or bi-weekly; consistent detection prevents small problems becoming big ones Patience — IPM takes longer than chemical pesticides; give it time to work Future Research Directions (41:01 - 42:42) LED lighting effects on pest behavior (quality, spectrum, intensity) Nanobubble technology and higher oxygen environments Entomopathogenic nematodes in enhanced oxygen conditions Pest management in vertical farms and hydroponic systems Key Quotes “IPM is basically a science-based decision support system, which essentially aims to reduce the use of plant protection products to levels that are economically sustainable and that are safe for the environment and human health.” — Dr. Erich Schoeller “They often say prevention is the best medicine, right? It helps you deal with problems before they even arise, which will ultimately save you money.” — Dr. Erich Schoeller “If they don’t know what they’re looking for and don’t know how to properly document the problems, your whole IPM pyramid is going to basically collapse.” — Dr. Erich Schoeller “We might not have a natural enemy that controls everything, but we do have natural enemies that control one thing and they do it very well.” — Dr. Erich Schoeller “It’s not just for the IPM to work, basically for a lot of things in life. You kind of have to wait and see if this works.” — Dr. Ping Yu Educational Highlights What is IRAC? The Insecticide Resistance Action Committee categorizes pesticides by their mode of action — how they kill or affect pest physiology. When rotating products, choose different IRAC groups to slow resistance development. Check pesticide labels or the IRAC website for mode of action codes. Types of Biological Control Agents | Type | How It Works | Examples | |——|–––––––|–––––| | Predators | Hunt and eat pests directly | Orius bugs, Delphastus beetles, predatory mites | | Parasitoids | Lay eggs inside pests; larvae consume host from within | Encarsia formosa, Eretmocerus wasps | | Entomopathogenic fungi | Infect and kill pests through fungal disease | Beauveria bassiana | | Entomopathogenic nematodes | Microscopic worms that infect soil-dwelling pests | Applied through irrigation or drenching | The Lilac Legend The scientific name for lilac, Syringa, comes from Greek mythology. The nymph Syringa transformed herself into a lilac shrub to escape the pursuing god Pan. Finding only the shrub, Pan fashioned its hollow stems into the first pan pipes (also called a syrinx). Lilacs are among the first to bloom in spring, symbolizing new life, the arrival of spring, and first love — especially in European traditions. Resources & Links AFE IPM Resources Sustainabloom IPM Industry Guide: sustainabloom.org/industry-guide/ipm AFE Thrips & Botrytis Resource Library: endowment.org/resource/tb — Guidance on building IPM programs plus resources for thrips and botrytis management AFE Grow Pro Webinar Series (IPM & Biocontrol): YouTube Playlist AFE Thrips & Botrytis Webinars: YouTube Playlist American Floral Endowment: endowment.org Connect with Dr. Schoeller Lab Website: schoellerlab.caes.uga.edu LinkedIn: Erich Schoeller UGA Entomology Faculty Profile: Department of Entomology, University of Georgia Show Links Website: bnbpod.com Show Notes: bnbpod.com Book Recommendation Lilac Girls by Martha Hall Kelly — A novel mentioned by Dr. Yu featuring lilacs in its setting About Blooms and Beyond Blooms and Beyond is a podcast that covers plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science. Whether you’re a commercial grower looking for management solutions, a student exploring horticulture careers, or someone who just loves plants and their stories, you’ll find something here for you. Hosted by Dr. Ping Yu from the University of Georgia, each episode features interviews with experts who bring enchanting stories, pioneering research, and practical wisdom from the world of horticulture. Your Takeaway: When you walk away from each episode, commercial professionals should have at least one piece of advice to help with production, and plant enthusiasts should have one cool fact to share about plants. Because that’s how we spread plant power to a larger audience and make the environment a little bit better. Credits Host: Dr. Ping Yu Guest: Dr. Erich Schoeller, University of Georgia Department of Entomology Producer: Rich Braman, UGA Center for Urban Agriculture Support: American Floral Endowment Educational Grant This episode is made possible through an educational grant from the American Floral Endowment, whose research priorities helped shape the topics that are featured. To learn more about AFE and access their research and educational resources, visit endowment.org. Episode Release Date: December 21, 2025 Episode Length: 45:11 “Till next time, stay healthy and go plants!” 🌱🌿 Quick Reference: IPM Pyramid ▲ /│\ / │ \ / │ \ CHEMICAL CONTROL / │ \ (Last Resort) /────┼────\ / │ \ / │ \ BIOLOGICAL CONTROL / │ \ (Living Organisms) /────────┼────────\ / │ \ / │ \ CULTURAL/MECHANICAL / │ \(Sanitation, Pruning) /────────────┼────────────\ / │ \ / │ \ DETECTION / │ \ (Scouting & Monitoring) /────────────────┼────────────────\ / │ \ / │ \ PREVENTION /___________________│___________________\(Rotation, Resistant Varieties) Start at the base — work your way up only as needed! 🌻 Every plant has a story. Every pest has a natural enemy. And every grower has the power to build a smarter system. 🌿

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S01:E05 Jan 5, 2026

The Plant Hunter: Inside the World of International Plant Exploration with Judson LeCompte

Blooms and Beyond - Season 1, Episode 5 Episode Title: “The Plant Hunter: Inside the World of International Plant Exploration with Judson LeCompte” Episode Description Ever wonder how the plants at your local garden center made their way from a breeder’s field in Japan or a mountain in China to your backyard? In this episode, Dr. Ping Yu sits down with Dr. Judson LeCompte, Product Development Manager at Spring Meadow Nursery and international plant hunter for Proven Winners Color Choice. Judson shares the fascinating—and often hilarious—realities of traveling the globe to discover the next great shrub, rose, or hydrangea. From navigating USDA quarantine regulations to sneaking into hotel kitchens to learn how to cook Chinese food, Judson reveals what it really takes to be a plant hunter in the 21st century. Along the way, he offers invaluable advice for young horticulturists: get uncomfortable, build your network through IPPS, and never underestimate the power of showing up. Whether you’re a commercial grower curious about where new genetics come from, a student dreaming of a career in plant exploration, or simply someone who loves a good plant story, this episode pulls back the curtain on one of horticulture’s most unique careers. Listen Time: ~51 minutes In This Episode Featured Guest Dr. Judson LeCompte - Product Development Manager (Plant Hunter) at Spring Meadow Nursery, the woody plant provider for Proven Winners Color Choice. PhD in Horticulture from Mississippi State University. Originally from Alabama, now based in West Michigan. Main Topics Judson’s Journey to Plant Hunting (02:43 - 05:17) Introduction to horticulture through his grandmother, a daylily collector and hybridizer Volunteering at a nursery at age 14, paid in plants Education at Auburn University (BS, MS) and Mississippi State (PhD in tea production) Landing the “dream job” through an IPPS connection and a chance breakfast conversation What Does a Plant Hunter Actually Do? (06:42 - 11:48) Building a global network of partners and breeders Preparing for international trips—from finding contacts to booking flights on a phone The three levels of USDA/APHIS import regulations: Basic import with phytosanitary certificate Post-entry quarantine (2 years for hydrangeas, roses) Controlled import permits (specialized quarantine facilities) Plants typically take 5-10 years of evaluation before introduction Choosing Where to Explore (13:09 - 16:22) Following priority lists: what’s selling, what needs improvement Researching breeders through papers, social media, and native ranges Why some countries are easier to work with than others “I’m not climbing mountains with leeches—I’m looking for breeders who’ve done that hard work” Traits That Make a Great Plant (16:22 - 19:09) Consumer appeal and performance Compact size (smaller gardens, smaller truck footprint) Environmental friendliness: drought tolerance, disease resistance, insect resistance Foliage color for year-round interest Edibles that actually taste good “Best in class” for every plant in the catalog Working with 75+ External Breeders (19:09 - 22:44) Range from backyard hobbyists to university breeders like Tom Ranney Common pitfall: breeding for one trait while forgetting the rest Chinese breeders focused on plant patents for promotion—not sales The joy of finding overlooked gems in a breeder’s collection Delicate communication: “This is that breeder’s life work” Bridging Academia and Industry (22:44 - 28:20) Helping young faculty understand promotion requirements Why academics should work at garden centers End caps reveal what excites consumers The breeder fee and marketing fee model at Proven Winners How marketing dollars flow back to drive demand Culture Shock and Culinary Adventures (28:20 - 34:09) China’s biggest culture shock—but it’s changed dramatically in 15 years Drawing the line at horse sushi Recreating favorite dishes at home after every trip Sneaking into hotel kitchens to watch chefs cook “If it’s good enough for the local people, it’s good enough for me” The Rose Revolution (39:28 - 45:18) Traditional rose breeding funneled through European rose houses Breaking the mold with Pheno Geno Roses (Netherlands/Serbia partnership) Four PhD women in Serbia doing “amazing work” The Flavor Line: edible roses that actually taste good Managing the Veterans Memorial Rose Garden at Mississippi State Rose rosette disease: not as disastrous as first thought Trialing philosophy: “death and destruction” to find the strong ones Does a PhD Help? (45:18 - 47:53) “I never went to college with the goal of getting a PhD” Graduating during the recession—grower jobs paid less than Home Depot What academia teaches: perseverance, navigating gray areas, building bridges You don’t need a PhD for this job—just plant knowledge, people skills, and willingness to travel Advice for Young Horticulturists (47:53 - 49:29) Join IPPS—every job and assistantship traces back to those connections Never take an introduction for granted Build your network: phone numbers, Facebook, LinkedIn Find a mentor doing what you want to do “You really only got one chance to burn a bridge” Key Quotes “I’m a six-year-old everywhere I go. I have a lot of fun visiting my breeders and my friends.” — Dr. Judson LeCompte “I think being uncomfortable for certainly a young horticulturist is a great thing.” — Dr. Judson LeCompte “We definitely believe in the IPPS motto of seeking and sharing. And we think that by sharing with our partners, we raise all the tides.” — Dr. Judson LeCompte “There’s no perfect plant. Everything in the catalog needs to be replaced. There has to be an improvement.” — Dr. Judson LeCompte “So I’m really just a talent scout. My job is to make breeders successful. And if they’re successful, then they keep bringing us plants.” — Dr. Judson LeCompte “You really only got one chance to burn a bridge. And it could screw up your entire career.” — Dr. Judson LeCompte Educational Highlights USDA/APHIS Import Regulations (Three Levels) Level 1: Standard Import Requires phytosanitary certificate from country of origin Import permit from USDA Relatively straightforward process Level 2: Post-Entry Quarantine Required for medium-risk plants (hydrangeas, roses) Plants held at approved nursery or university site Typically 2-year quarantine period Multiple inspections per year Level 3: Controlled Import Permit Most stringent requirements Specialized quarantine facility required Threat screening, monthly inspections All runoff water must be collected and treated USDA provides program if nursery lacks facilities What Spring Meadow Looks For in New Plants Consumer appeal - Must look good at point of sale Consumer performance - Must perform in the landscape Compact habit - Industry trending toward smaller plants Environmental traits - Drought tolerance, disease/insect resistance Foliage interest - Color that changes throughout the year Seasonality - Looking good when people are shopping (spring/summer) Best in class - Must be the best version of that plant type The Breeder Fee Model When Proven Winners sells a plant, they collect: Breeder fee - Goes directly to the plant’s breeder Marketing fee - Builds a budget to remarket that plant This creates a virtuous cycle: successful plants generate marketing dollars that drive more sales, which benefits growers who don’t need their own marketing departments. Resources & Links Connect with Judson: Email: [email protected] Spring Meadow Nursery: springmeadownursery.com Organizations Mentioned: IPPS (International Plant Propagators’ Society) - Southern Region ASHS (American Society for Horticultural Science) Raulston Arboretum - Host of the Southeastern Plant Symposium Breeders & Companies Referenced: Spring Meadow Nursery / Proven Winners Color Choice Pheno Geno Roses (Netherlands/Serbia) J. Berry Nursery (Texas) Tom Ranney - NC State University Chris Warner - UK rose breeder Mr. Suzuki - Japanese loropetalum breeder Conard-Pyle / Star Roses Monrovia Regulatory Resources: USDA APHIS Plants for Planting Manual (online) Visit the Show: Website: bandbpod.com Show notes and additional resources at bandbpod.com Plant Spotlight: Loropetalum 🌸 Judson shared the story of pursuing loropetalum breeder Mr. Suzuki in Japan for years—even “stalking” his house on Google Maps! The persistence paid off when he finally joined Proven Winners and could sit down for tea with his “rock star” breeder. Loropetalum chinense, commonly called Chinese fringe flower, is prized for: Striking purple/burgundy foliage Delicate, ribbon-like flowers Compact cultivars for smaller gardens Year-round color interest About Blooms and Beyond Blooms and Beyond is a podcast that covers plant history, culture, and management through the lens of science. Whether you’re a commercial grower looking for management solutions, a student exploring horticulture careers, or someone who just loves plants and their stories, you’ll find something here for you. Hosted by Dr. Ping Yu from the University of Georgia, each episode features interviews with experts who bring enchanting stories, pioneering research, and practical wisdom from the world of horticulture. Your Takeaway: When you walk away from each episode, commercial professionals should have at least one piece of advice to help with production, and plant enthusiasts should have one cool fact to share about plants. Because that’s how we spread plant power to a larger audience and make the environment a little bit better. Credits Host: Dr. Ping Yu Featured Guest: Dr. Judson LeCompte, Spring Meadow Nursery / Proven Winners Color Choice Producer: Rich Braman, UGA Center for Urban Agriculture Episode Release Date: January 4th, 2026 Episode Length: 51:30 “Till next time, stay healthy and go plants!” 🌱 Connect & Support Love what you’re hearing? Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform Leave a review to help others find the show Share with fellow plant lovers Visit bandbpod.com for more resources Conversations like this only happen when you support the show. For more information and ways to support us, please visit bandbpod.com. 🌿 Every plant has a story—and someone had to go find it. 🌿